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Delmar Browne
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Post subject: The Debate Is On!  Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:53 pm |
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OK Folks!
Let's have a serious mixing conversation!
So, you guys are telling me that if I put my whole collection on either CD or an external drive and I play @ a major gig in front of thousands of people make me less of a DJ?
I played a 70's party @ the Brooklyn Museum in 2006 in front of thousands of people with Vinyl. At the time of the booking, I'd a choice to use either CD's or Vinyl. Because of the theme, I wanted to show the audience what was used back in the days.
My point is this, I've been in DJ Battles (Vinyl) and competitions as a Mix Show DJ. It's called going with the times! Every song in my Mix Shows were all reedited by yours truly. That's hard work within itself whether the sources were either from CD's, MP3's, Wave Files or Vinyl.
Production is the key in my explanation and Programming is how I became successful.
Honorable Mention: I was named a Mix Master @ KTU 103.5 FM for the Studio 54 Clubhouse with Joe Causi in 2001 because of my skills.
Guess what? My audition was from Vinyl and it was a 20 minute mix with 8 songs on the playlist.
There's nothing to prove here and everyone on this forum and world for that matter has their own opinion.
I've a reputation and I'm going to speak from my own experience.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:16 am |
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darren
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Post subject: Re: The Debate Is On! Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:30 am |
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Delmar Browne wrote: OK Folks!
Let's have a serious mixing conversation!
So, you guys are telling me that if I put my whole collection on either CD or an external drive and I play @ a major gig in front of thousands of people make me less of a DJ?
I played a 70's party @ the Brooklyn Museum in 2006 in front of thousands of people with Vinyl. At the time of the booking, I'd a choice to use either CD's or Vinyl. Because of the theme, I wanted to show the audience what was used back in the days.
My point is this, I've been in DJ Battles (Vinyl) and competitions as a Mix Show DJ. It's called going with the times! Every song in my Mix Shows were all reedited by yours truly. That's hard work within itself whether the sources were either from CD's, MP3's, Wave Files or Vinyl.
Production is the key in my explanation and Programming is how I became successful.
Honorable Mention: I was named a Mix Master @ KTU 103.5 FM for the Studio 54 Clubhouse with Joe Causi in 2001 because of my skills.
Guess what? My audition was from Vinyl and it was a 20 minute mix with 8 songs on the playlist.
There's nothing to prove here and everyone on this forum and world for that matter has their own opinion.
I've a reputation and I'm going to speak from my own experience.
hi delmar.
i'm a dj on starpoint radio.
i don't mix,but i have a good knowledge of music and i can use a mic.
does that make me less of a dj ?
you play music because you have a talent for putting a smile on peoples faces.you have nothing to prove here,as i don't.we are all in this for the music.it's in your blood,as it is in mine and all the other guys here.
ktf.
darren  
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Delmar Browne
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Post subject: Venting Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:49 am |
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Well said on both parts Darren and Pete!
Appreciative all the same!
It's just to say "My mission with music was to be heard!"
This was a dream that came true and I've an agenda to fulfill.
Pleasing most with beautiful music and telling my story from beats and measures.
I just wasn't feeling Dancer's comment and I'd to make a point known!
I've nothing but respect for all on this forum and I want to keep it that way!
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darren
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:55 am |
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hi delmar.
i was speaking to a dutch friend a few years back.he came over as aggressive.but new his stuff.
i'm english he is dutch.it was a clash of cultures.once we overcame that we had a great laff.
differant worlds one language.it's all about the music my friend.
ktf.
darren
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Post subject: Re: The Debate Is On! Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:25 am |
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Delmar Browne wrote: Guess what? My audition was from Vinyl and it was a 20 minute mix with 8 songs on the playlist.
That's what I'm talking about! When push comes to shove, the vinyl comes out! Again, watching a dj spin vinyl goes a long way! Don't get me wrong, I'm into the technology, but there's ways to incorporate it with old school style. Tiesto uses mostly vinyl, yes, you see him with cd's too, but rarely with just a laptop pressing buttons. Yes, I know you can use laptops and control your music with analog or digital turntables that's ok too. But not standing in front of your laptop to play an already preprogrammed mixed set. It's just not credible in my book. It's like lip syncing.
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Delmar Browne
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Post subject: Technology Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:29 pm |
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Pete Denis wrote: Delmar, we all know you have nothing to prove. No-one here really does. The subject was technology, not individual DJ's. Sorry if that was what you got from my post. That was not my intentions.
OK Pete:
Since the subject was technology, please tell me what's wrong if someone put their whole collection from CD's or Vinyl and save it as a wave file or MP3; Put it on an external drive and play the file on either coded CD's or coded Records.
Isn't that equivalent to playing a remix of a song?
So if you're spinning and you're playing Vinyl and someone bumps the floor or something else and your record skips; What's the reaction to that?
The name of the game back in the days was to have either the LP, 12", 10", promo, import, remix, dub, reprise and accapella (intro/outro) of a song.
Some of us were stuck on the versions heard either on radio or in the club. Once a remix was released, people either inquired about it or wanted to stay with an original mix.
As mentioned, technology that's modern is equivalent to the rise from BSR Quanta 500 Turntable to Technics.
I would love Dancer to place a comment because I haven't heard from him since!
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Post subject: Technology Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:00 am |
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Please don' take my comments as a kind of attack to you Delmar!!!My opinion is that laptop thing with the hard disc is less live than turntables and vinyl and sometimes looks fake!
But everybody is free to decide what is the best way for him to play his music
I just don't feel it when I see someone standing with just a laptop in a booth!I believe that the programs that works with turntables like Serato gives a better picture of a modern DJ!
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Delmar Browne
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Post subject: Thanks for your reply! Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:20 am |
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I can understand your opinion, Dancer!
My point is this, if you're playing on a CDJ 800 or CDJ 1000 as an example and tricks can be done with digital decks, does that mean a DJ is faking it? My question still wasn't answered yet! Trust me Dancer, I don't just push a button and away we go! I'm an old, school jock based on experience with the talent to play on any system; Even done the Video DJ thing too! Just like the 8 Track Cassette, Cassette, Records and now CD's. I wish someone was to come to a performance and say I'm faking it. Take a listen to my Mix Shows on PodoMatic.com and be the judge. All of those songs were reedited by yours truly. Is that a crime! Please let me know! We're talking coded records (in my case Final Scratch) or coded CD's. When I do my Mix Show on Pressure Radio, I either use all vinyl or CD's for the two-hour set. Pre-production for me takes a few hours and I'm playing "LIVE!" I'm so speechless after all of that!
Francois K uses a laptop when he plays live, please tell me what's wrong with that!
Danny Krivit uses either vinyl or CD's and I've seen him bring 5 crates of records to a live event outside.
Nothing wrong with Modern Technology, sir!
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:32 am |
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hi gang.
a few years back at a caister soul weekend i was talking to sean french(one of the original jocks from back in the day),he was talking about DJ's taking lappys to gigs.he thought it was a good idea,simply because of the weight of carrying all that vinyl.
my brother-in-law also uses a lappy + CD's.he has retro fitted a unit to his mobile rig.reason,the 40 gigs worth of music he don't have to carry.
some people use lappy's for convenience,some because they are lazy.
i have also transfered all my vinyl to the hard drive(took me a bloody long time too  )now i only have to take CD's instead of carrying all that vinyl.
i wish i had all CD's back in the day,then my back wouldn't be giving me all this grief now.
technology is there to be used,so use it.or we will all be driving cars made back in the early 1900's.
ktf.
darren
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Post subject: True to form! Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:12 am |
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darren wrote: hi gang. a few years back at a caister soul weekend i was talking to sean french(one of the original jocks from back in the day),he was talking about DJ's taking lappys to gigs.he thought it was a good idea,simply because of the weight of carrying all that vinyl. my brother-in-law also uses a lappy + CD's.he has retro fitted a unit to his mobile rig.reason,the 40 gigs worth of music he don't have to carry. some people use lappy's for convenience,some because they are lazy. i have also transfered all my vinyl to the hard drive(took me a bloody long time too )now i only have to take CD's instead of carrying all that vinyl. i wish i had all CD's back in the day,then my back wouldn't be giving me all this grief now. technology is there to be used,so use it.or we will all be driving cars made back in the early 1900's. ktf. darren My point exactly, Darren!
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Post subject: Re: The Lost art Of Re-Mixing Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:25 pm |
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I do not understand. The "ART" of live remixing a song will never die so long as there is an artist behind the turntables. Even if it is on CD. I have heard a few Dj's mess around with CD's and come up with something. I think the sad part here is that ther are only a few artists left.
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Post subject: Re: The Lost art Of Re-Mixing Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:10 am |
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Delmar,
I read all your posts, I understand what you are saying. What others are trying to relay is; A jock takes two copies of the same song and remixes it to his ear and presents a NEW version of hte moment.
I have said myself that there are a couple of guys that I have seen that mess about a bit. But, I have not heard anyone,lap, mp3, etc etc that can take a song to a new level spur of the moment. I have listend to some of your sets, I applaued you.
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Post subject: Re: The Lost art Of Re-Mixing Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:36 pm |
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I couldn't agree more with you Dan...!
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Post subject: Re: The Lost art Of Re-Mixing Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:14 pm |
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I personally think you have to move with the technology! Though agree that there is a certain vibe and atmosphere that comes from DJing with Vinyl's. I don't think we can say one's better or more credible than the other, it's all just about creating a moment in time that ignites the crowd, whether that be with vinyls or CDs and a laptop. Have you seen this remix competition? New technology def makes everything more accessible to the masses.  _________________ 
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