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 Post subject: COPACABANA - own forum...
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:21 am 
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Hi ALL !!

Now Copacabana have got its own Forum...
So.. Start discuss and comment !! :D

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 Post subject: It's own spot!!
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:17 pm 
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The Copacabana has it's own page, now it has it's own thread. Well, it is finally gets some much deserved props! Great. Hey STARR, I would like top see you jump in here. I bet you have a ton of questions. This(and IPANEMA) were as close to European Discos as anything in the United States gets. Fact of the matter was, that my friends went to IPANEMA for a long time while also going to The Copa. These were my friends we are talking about. If your friends go to another club, that tells me that other club was a really jamming place. I truly believe, that as far as "regulars" were concerned. IPANEMA won the "competition" the four or five years IPANEMA was around. But no-club made more money then the Copacabana. The MOB always had an angle. The Casino upstairs produced un-told revenue. In fact, the whole CLUB thing, a great front for the Casino, for over 75 years!!

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 Post subject: at The Copa
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:31 pm 
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Back in 1975. If someone went to IPANEMA, what was the cover charge? How much were the drinks? Champagne? Was there food available. I know that at The Copa, there was an excellent restaurant too. How much did it cost to get into The Copa? In other words, to go to both the IPANEMA and The Copacabana,in one night. What would it cost me? And could you go back and forth between the two clubs?

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 Post subject: At the Copa
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Do you people understand how big this club was? I seriously doubt it. growing up, I heard about it from friends of my Parents. I saw it on I LOVE LUCY reruns on television. there were records in my home that said FROM THE COPACABANA. It was always the Hot Spot in New York. That changed a little in the Disco Era, but from what I read, not too much. there was just other clubs, more competition. That area of New York City, it was full of great clubs, still is. I wish I could have gone there!

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 Post subject: Was it that good!
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Seriously, was it that good? Was it packed every night? How did being in a Mob Club differ from a non- mob club?


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 Post subject: The Copacabana
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Let's be real. The Copa was never the "Best" disco in New York. Neither was
IPANEMA or any of those type clubs. They were just better then the best. It was the REPUTATION that made a club the "best". 54, Paradise Garage, 12 West, 4D, BONDs, they were big name clubs. But for the best in Music, the Copacabana was right next to IPANEMA as having the best music. The people who went to these clubs knew that and always came back. They might have gone to other clubs, but they returned to these two "sister" clubs!


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 Post subject: BEST DISCO IN NEW YORK,
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BEST DISCO IN NEW YORK? I would never say those words, it is a personal preference question. There were many BEST discos, I will say this, during the SUMMER OF SAM days, when Discos took it on the chin, The Copacabana still had a few hundred people everynight, over 1000 on the weekends. Granted, mostly mobsters who were well armed themselves. And before and after SOS, there were millions of Club Goers, so there were plenty to go around. Almost all the clubs were packed on the Week-ends! The exceptional ones, maintained a steady clientèle during the week as well. All was good there, in the New York City Disco scene for many years! Many BEST clubs!!

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 Post subject: Billy Bob Asked.....
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Billy Bob Asked, "was there a difference between MOB- clubs and non-Mob clubs?" Well, first off, The MOB was everywhere. If they did not directly OWN a club or have "A piece of it", they were in control of the Unions who could stop garbage pick-ups, liquor deliveries, food deliveries, linen services, security, and a vast array of other integral things that go into the operation of a DISCO. You had to pay up, or you were out of business. That simple. Fact!-- A Mob Club, usually had a figurehead or three to take the fall if anything ever went wrong. Those clubs, the COPACABANA being the FLAGSHIP of them all, were run very smoothly. Never a problem with, services or outside forces & elements. Everything always went smoother. The pay was always better. They really took care of their employees(Just don't dare steal from them). The clientèle was more affluent, better tippers. There was less trouble, less arguing about a bill or a tab. Never a prolonged incident. Few fights. There was a respect that other places never got, management and operational wise. It was safer. Now, on the flip side of that coin, there were more obvious security, higher prices on everything, and always a criminal element around. There were always babes in the Copa! Never failed. At least 30 top of the line females there for the picking. Standard Procedure! Over-all, the Mob always knew how to have a good time, and entertain, as long as they stayed with your money at the end! LOYALTY too. In other clubs, one could get fired at any time, for anything. No-one got fired from The Copa, unless, the real bosses ordered it. I never feared for my job. In fact, I constantly wanted more help!! I was tight with the management, I left on my terms, to come to Florida!

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MY ?? IS COPA WAS GOOD WHEN PETE WAS THERE IN 77/78, BUT AFTER HE LEFT COPA THE PLACE STAYED OPEN AND GOT EVEN MORE POPULER FOR MANY MANY YEARS DO TO GOOD PROMOTING AN OTHER DJS, SO WHO WERE THIS OTHER DJS..AND NEW OWNERS...

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 Post subject: After Spring of 78'
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Well, after I left, Tony Gio had already come on board from Philly(roommate of Richie Kazor of Studio 54)in 1977, and Luis (El Flaco)Mario Orellana was also there(from 1976). They continued the fine music. And a Salsa deejay was hired. But by the end of 79, the Copacabana was a Latin music oriented club. Yes, there was still Disco, but it shared the time with Salsa. By the early 80's, it was almost totally Salsa. As for the "owners"? Well, it was still a Mob owned club until about 1986. Just about the time a Mob war erupted thanks to the Teflon Don whacking Big Paulie. It was "sold" to an investment group. Sounds to me like it went from one Mafia family to another. But I was not there, that is only speculation. Names?? I know none to give to you.
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 Post subject: Salsa
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From what I know about it, it was a Salsa Club from 1986 to it's closing. It was still a Disco after Pete; Tony & Flaco kept it hopping then. It seems to co-insite with the time that The Copacabana management changed hands. Once the "Mob" was out, it was all Salsa, just like CASABLANCA that was down the block!

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 Post subject: Safe Place
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Besides all the girls, the music and the atmosphere. What impressed me also was the security. If and when there was trouble, it was over in the blink of an eye. The guilty parties were "removed" in quick fashion. There was little crime, if you exclude the Casino & prostitution & drug dealing. It never got "held-up"! Never got "Raided". For a "MOB" Club, it was one of the safest places I ever been at. I loved this place!

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 Post subject: Tell Me....
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Pete, Tell me... if Jimmy James had been around in the hay-day of Disco, would the Copacabana had him perform there? I know that The Copa was not a Gay club, ever. But would his talent have conquered the bigotry? Also, related to that, were there ever any GAY acts at The Copa?

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 Post subject: Great Question
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That is one great question. The Copacabana was a strange club in how it "welcomed" Gay patrons. The MOB really did not want anything to do with them. No Gay nights, flaming queens would have a hard time even getting inside the club. BUT... once inside, it was a different story. They were the life of the party. They used the COPA GIRLS as props to act out their flamboyance. I loved having them there. As far as Gay acts? I don't recall anyone other then the Village People performing there. I don't think we ever had SYLVESTER there! But we did have BETTE MIDLER in her GAY QUEEN prime. The days of her outrageous live show. On those days, there were plenty of Gay people.-- As far as Jimmy James. They would have loved the current version, and the Female Impersonator version. He is talented, and I think would probably be a great Live performer. He would not only been welcomed, he would have gotten return dates easily. Wish he HAD been around!

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 Post subject: A True Copa Story.
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It was early January 1978, a Saturday night. The place was hopping, packed to the rafters. I was playing some BeeGees, "You Should Be Dancing" to be exact. When I noticed that Cheyrl Tiegs was there. There was a steady flow of people coming her way. It was a lot of people. I could see the panic in her eyes. There was a code word for "trouble on the dance floor", so I spoke it, the "security" came quickly to her defense. They interceded, and ushered her into the deejay booth. When she got there, she was upset. It was a hassle that she did not anticipate or appreciate. Everyone tried to calm her down, but to no avail. She wanted out of the club. That is when a very young John Gotti walked in. He was as big a dick as there could be. He said some nasty things to her. She ran out the back door. A few minutes later, Gotti's boss, Neil DeLaCrosse walked in, had a few words with Gotti, then open handed, he bitch slapped him. Gotti, did nothing but stay quiet. Meanwhile, I mixed Tavares' DON'T TAKE AWAY THE MUSIC. When DeLaCrosse left, Gotti tried to take out his frustration on me, telling me how that song sucked. I just mixed on as he left. Just a typical Saturday at The Copa!

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